Bob McCue

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Contents 1 Self-contradiction 2 FAIR Wiki articles 3 Reviews of author's work(s) 4 Further reading

At the end of 2002 a member in Canada, Bob McCue, decided to leave the Church after a self-described "spiritual journey."

Few of McCue's attacks are original; they are addressed by topic in the wiki.

Self-contradiction

Addresses specific quotes which contradict earlier statements.

Main Article: Quotes and Responses

FAIR Wiki articles

These wiki articles address claims made by this author.

• Contradictory claims
• Anti-Mormon
• Anti-depressant use in Utah
• Attitude to non-members
  • Primary sources
• Church over family?
• Education—does it threaten faith?
• Lying_for_the_Lord?
• Marriage, duties in  ^{[needs work]}
• Mothers, duties toward
• Wives, duties toward
• Salvation of non-members
• Wayward family members, attitude toward
• Book of Mormon historicity
• The Spaulding manuscript
• View of the Hebrews ^{[needs work]}
• Wordprint studies
• Book of Mormon witnesses (Summary page)
• Censorship_and_revision_of_LDS_history
• Burning in the bosom
• Testimony and doubt reconciliation

Plural marriage wiki links

Scriptural and doctrinal issues

• Book of Mormon Condemns Polygamy
• Contradiction between D&C 132 and Jacob 2
• 1835 Doctrine and Covenants denies polygamy
• Plural marriage is not Biblical?
  • No biblical mandate for plural marriage?
  • Early Christians on Plural Marriage
• The Law of Adoption
• Purpose of plural marriage
• Brigham Young 8 October 1861 discourse on plural marriage
• Polygamists are to go beyond normal "bounds"?

Joseph Smith

• Joseph Smith and polygamy (Summary article)

Youth

• Youthful struggles with immorality?
• Was Joseph an early womanizer?
  • Eliza Winters
  • Marinda Nancy Johnson

Beginnings

• Polygamy book/Initiation of the practice
• Eternal marriage—introduction of the doctrine
• Divine manifestations to plural wives and families

Emma

• Emma Smith
  • Emma to be "annihilated"?
  • Emma, Eliza, and the stairs

Wives

• Fanny Alger—affair or marriage?
• Fanny Alger—William McLellin account
• Helen Mar Kimball
• Sarah Ann Whitney
• Zina Huntington Jacobs
• Mismanagement of the Lawrence estate?

Controversies

• John C. Bennett
• "Censorship" and "revision" of LDS history?
  • Wilford Woodruff criticizes publication of polygamists
  • LDS histories over many years omit plural marriage
• Lustful motives?
• Ohio marriages illegal?
• Polygamy/Remarrying without civil divorce
• Women locked in a room?
• Polygamous marriages to young women
  • Polygamy book/Age of wives
• Polyandry
  • Polygamy book/Polyandry
  • Zina and Henry Jacobs
  • Children by Presendia Buell?
• Children by plural marriage?
  • Polygamy book/Children_of_polygamous_marriages
• "Love letters?"
• Did some women turn Joseph down?

Other Nauvoo period

• John C. Bennett
• William Clayton and plural marriage
• Sarah Pratt
• Nancy Rigdon
• Sidney Rigdon

Utah period

• Prevalence of polygamy
• Brigham Young 8 October 1861 discourse on plural marriage
• Brigham Young: hiding history?
• Required for exaltation?
  • Brigham Young in JD 11, page 269
  • First Presidency Counselor on the Polygamy / Exaltation Question
  • Is God the Father a polygamist?
  • Was Jesus a polygamist?
• Polygamy/Parley P. Pratt's marriage and murder
• Polygamy/Remarrying without civil divorce

Cessation of plural marriage

• The Manifesto the result of political pressure
• Post-Manifesto plural marriages

Reviews and theories

• In Sacred Loneliness Book Reviews
• The modern Church and polygamous groups

Joseph Smith, Jr. wiki articles

• The Council of Fifty
• Did Joseph boast of keeping the Church intact?
• Joseph Smith's narcissism
  • Did Joseph boast of keeping the Church intact?
  • Did Joseph claim to be "better than Jesus"?
• Greek psalter
• Healings and miracles?
• Holy Ghost, Joseph Smith is the
• Kinderhook Plates
• King of the world, anointed
• Joseph Smith land speculation
• Lazy Smiths?
• Lucy Mack Smith and Joseph's "amusing recitals" of Ancient Americans
• Was Joseph Smith a martyr?
  • Martyrdom in Christian history
• Masonic cry of distress
• Money digging/treasure seeking
  • Joseph Smith's "treasure hunting" trip to Salem
• Moonmen
• Occult activities or "magick"?
• Personal failings
  • Lazy?
• Political activities
• Seer stones, use of
• Status in LDS belief
• Teller of tall tales?
• As translator

Joseph Smith and legal issues wiki articles

• Joseph Smith and legal trials
  • 1826 trial
• Kirtland Safety Society
• Nauvoo city charter
  • Habeas corpus
  • Usurpation_of_power?
• Nauvoo Expositor
  • Nauvoo Expositor Full Text

Prophecy wiki articles

• Joseph Smith prophecies
  • Can't be killed within 5 years of August 1843
  • David Patten to serve a mission?
  • Government to be overthrown and wasted
  • Independence temple to be built "in this generation"
  • Prophetic test in Deuteronomy
  • Second Coming in 1890 (56 years)
  • Zion redeemed by September 1836?
• Official doctrine: what is it?
• LDS prophets don't prophesy?
• Prophetic inerrancy?
• Revelation after Joseph Smith

First Vision wiki articles

• First Vision accounts (Summary and index page)
  • Do Greek scholars solve the discrepancies in Paul's vision accounts?
• Religious revivals in 1820
• Conflation of 1824-25 revival?
• Early Smith family history
• Lazy Smiths?
• Contradiction about knowing all churches were wrong
• Joseph Smith did not know if God existed in 1823
• Joseph Smith joined other churches
• 1830 statement about seeing "God"
• First Vision fabricated to give "Godly authority"
• D&C 84 says God not seen without priesthood?
• No reference to First Vision in 1830s publications?
• First Vision story became more detailed and colorful after 1832?
• Controversy Concerning D&C 121:28
• The Father: A Spirit vs. Embodied
• No mention in non-LDS literature before 1843?
• Seldom mentioned in LDS publications before 1877
  • Longer version (timeline)

Claims about the 1832 First Vision account

• Only one Personage appears in the 1832 account
• 1832 account doesn't mention new dispensation
• 1832 account doesn't mention a revival
• 1832 account doesn't forbid joining a church
• 1832 account doesn't mention persecution
• Motivation in 1832 account is different
• Different age provided in the 1832 text
• Struggle with Satan not in the 1832 account
• 1832 says wicked will be destroyed but 1838 doesn't
• 1832 vision set in heaven or on earth?
• Eternal life regardless of church affiliation in 1832 text?

Claims about the 1835 First Vision account

• The "Angels" of the 1835 account

Claims about the 1838 First Vision account

• Lack of contemporary Father and Son vision until 1838?
• 1838 account modified to offset leadership crisis?

Claims about other members and the First Vision

• George Q. Cannon referred to "angels"
• Oliver Cowdery not aware of First Vision in 1834-35
• Orson Hyde referred to "angels"
• Andrew Jenson called personage an "angel"
• Heber C. Kimball denied the Father appeared
• Orson Pratt confused about "angel" or Father-Son
• Parley P. Pratt only said that "God" appeared
• George A. Smith said First Vision was an "angel"
• Lucy Mack Smith claimed "angel"?
• William Smith said First Vision was an "angel"?
• Orson Spencer said an "angel" was the first manifestation?
• John Taylor's understanding of the First Vision
• Wilford Woodruff spoke of an "angel"
• Brigham Young said the Lord didn't appear
• Brigham Young never mentioned the First Vision

Joseph Smith other visionary issues wiki articles

• Joseph Smith's early conception of God
• Moroni as an angel of Satan
• Did Nephi or Moroni appear in 1823?
• Personages who appeared to Joseph Smith
• Swedenborg and three degrees of glory  ^{[needs work]}

God wiki articles

• The Father: A Spirit vs. Embodied
• Corporeality of God
  • God is "not a man"?
• Unchanging Nature of God
• Creatio ex nihilo / Creation out of nothing
  • Creation in Colossians 1:16
  • Creation of spirits
• Downplaying the King Follett discourse?
  • Do Mormons believe they will be "gods of their own planets"?
• Elohim and Jehovah
• Foreknowledge of God
• God is a Spirit
• Godhead and the Trinity
• Heavenly Mother?
  • Latter-day Saints believe in Celestial Sex?
• Infinite regress of Gods?
• Kolob
• "No God beside me" - (includes Isaiah 43-46 issues)
• No man has seen God
• Polytheism - Are Mormons polytheists?
• Spirit bodies for humans and 1 Cor 15
• Theosis or human deification
  • Do Mormons believe they will be "gods of their own planets"?
  • Latter-day Saints believe in Celestial Sex?
  • Primary sources/Theosis

Video

Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories, Matthew Brown, 2006 FAIR Conference

• Part 1: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
• Part 2: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
• Part 3: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
• Part 4: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
• Part 5: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories
• Part 5: Revised or Unaltered?: Joseph Smith's Foundational Stories

Reviews of author's work(s)

• Blake T. Ostler, "Spiritual Experiences as the Basis for Belief and Commitment," (2007 FAIR Conference Presentation). FAIR link

Further reading

Critical Works

• Richard Abanes
  • One Nation Under Gods — (Index of claims)
  • Becoming Gods: A Closer Look at 21st-Century Mormonism — (Index of claims)
  • Inside Today's Mormonism (2007 re-issue of Becoming Gods)
• Will Bagley
  • Blood of the Prophets: Brigham Young and the Massacre at Mountain Meadows
• Fawn McKay Brodie
  • No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith — (Index of claims)
• Todd Compton
  • In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith
• Ed Decker
  • The God Makers (film)
• Dan Erickson
• Norman L. Geisler
  • "Scripture," in The Counterfeit Gospel of Mormonism
• Hurlbut-Howe affidavits
  • The_Hurlbut_affidavits
• Ronald V. Huggins
  • From Captain Kidd's Treasure Ghost to the Angel Moroni: Changing Dramatis Personae in Early Mormonism
• Charles Larson
  • By His Own Hand upon Papyrus: A New Look at the Joseph Smith Papyri
• Bob McCue
• McKeever & Johnson
  • Mormonism 101
• Christopher Marc Nemelka
  • The "Lost 116 pages"
  • The "Sealed Portion"
• Linda King Newell and Valeen Tippetts Avery
  • Mormon Enigma
• Richard N. Ostling and Joan K. Ostling
  • Mormon America: The Power and the Promise — (Index of claims)
• Grant Palmer
  • An Insider's View of Mormon Origins — (Index of claims)
• D. Michael Quinn
  • Early Mormonism and the Magic World View
  • "LDS Church Authority and New Plural Marriages, 1890–1904"
  • The Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power
  • The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power
  • Same-Sex Dynamics Among Nineteenth-Century Americans: A Mormon Example
• George D. Smith
  • Nauvoo Polygamy — (Index of claims)
• Carol Whang Shutter
  • September Dawn (film)
• Simon G. Southerton
  • Losing a Lost Tribe: Native Americans, DNA, and the Mormon Church — (Index of claims)
• Jerald and Sandra Tanner
  • The Changing World of Mormonism — (Index of claims)
  • Mormonism: Shadow or Reality?